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	<title>Comments on: Symbolic Meaning of the Raven in Native American Indian Lore</title>
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		<title>By: avenefica</title>
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		<dc:creator>avenefica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Silent Lion,

I relish your processing here...and how you &quot;walk&quot; through the connections of meaning...coming full circle to fill out that meaning to its fullest potential.

Thanks for investing the thought.  So often, socialized/conditioned parts of ourselves just demand pat/simple answers without any kind of self-involvement or self-investment.  

It just doesn&#039;t work that way.  You know this.  

Crow confirms it too.  Crow asks us to dive deep into darker mysteries with a high curiosity matching its own.  I love it.  

Thanks for walking the walk Lion - it&#039;s really encouraging for me to see that....so thanks for sharing this conveyance too.

Namaste,
Avia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Silent Lion,</p>
<p>I relish your processing here&#8230;and how you &#8220;walk&#8221; through the connections of meaning&#8230;coming full circle to fill out that meaning to its fullest potential.</p>
<p>Thanks for investing the thought.  So often, socialized/conditioned parts of ourselves just demand pat/simple answers without any kind of self-involvement or self-investment.  </p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t work that way.  You know this.  </p>
<p>Crow confirms it too.  Crow asks us to dive deep into darker mysteries with a high curiosity matching its own.  I love it.  </p>
<p>Thanks for walking the walk Lion &#8211; it&#8217;s really encouraging for me to see that&#8230;.so thanks for sharing this conveyance too.</p>
<p>Namaste,<br />
Avia</p>
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		<title>By: Ina Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ina Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am trying to find out what a murder of crows symbolize. I came into my driveway and in the revine it just caught my attention. There must have benn 15 to 20 crows, circling in a clockwise manner.

Thank you for assisting
Ina</description>
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<p>I am trying to find out what a murder of crows symbolize. I came into my driveway and in the revine it just caught my attention. There must have benn 15 to 20 crows, circling in a clockwise manner.</p>
<p>Thank you for assisting<br />
Ina</p>
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		<title>By: raine</title>
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		<dc:creator>raine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wanted to know the difference between crow and raven symbolism. i live in the south, and there is an abundance of crows, but i&#039;m under the impression that it would be rare to spot a raven anywhere in my state. is there anything in native american lore or other references that can distinguish between these two birds for their symbolisms? 
my grandmother used to use crow symbolism, and im not sure why. when she passed away, my father said he noticed crows following him to work. regardless of if this means something, i&#039;d like to see why crows were an important aspect to her life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wanted to know the difference between crow and raven symbolism. i live in the south, and there is an abundance of crows, but i&#8217;m under the impression that it would be rare to spot a raven anywhere in my state. is there anything in native american lore or other references that can distinguish between these two birds for their symbolisms?<br />
my grandmother used to use crow symbolism, and im not sure why. when she passed away, my father said he noticed crows following him to work. regardless of if this means something, i&#8217;d like to see why crows were an important aspect to her life.</p>
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		<title>By: Silent Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silent Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a two-day therapy\healing workshop to learning some healing techniques about two weeks ago.

The instructor asked us to form 3-4 person groups. Each person was to select an animal or natural earth phenomenon to describe another person the workshop. Someone picked crow for me. Initially, I was startled, thinking the crow was a lowly creature, but the person who picked crow said the crow had high\positive significance in Native American lore.

Also, a another member of my small group selected a &quot;silent lion&quot; for me.

This afternoon, my wife heard some birds loudly fighting in the back of our home. She went to see what the commotion was all about and said she saw a very large crow.

Tonight I sat down and was reading a book which suggested keeping a dream dictionary. I remembered my wife seeing the large crow today and then I remembered my workshop experience of being labeled a crow.

This lead me to search for the symbolic meaning of the crow and I came across this site.

Thanks, avenefica for providing information about this symbols.

Silent Lion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a two-day therapy\healing workshop to learning some healing techniques about two weeks ago.</p>
<p>The instructor asked us to form 3-4 person groups. Each person was to select an animal or natural earth phenomenon to describe another person the workshop. Someone picked crow for me. Initially, I was startled, thinking the crow was a lowly creature, but the person who picked crow said the crow had high\positive significance in Native American lore.</p>
<p>Also, a another member of my small group selected a &#8220;silent lion&#8221; for me.</p>
<p>This afternoon, my wife heard some birds loudly fighting in the back of our home. She went to see what the commotion was all about and said she saw a very large crow.</p>
<p>Tonight I sat down and was reading a book which suggested keeping a dream dictionary. I remembered my wife seeing the large crow today and then I remembered my workshop experience of being labeled a crow.</p>
<p>This lead me to search for the symbolic meaning of the crow and I came across this site.</p>
<p>Thanks, avenefica for providing information about this symbols.</p>
<p>Silent Lion</p>
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		<title>By: crow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of your readers have confused crows and ravens in their identifying of them. In Oregon ravens are extremely rare. Seeing two together probably did not happen. The northwestern US has both northwestern crows and standard american crows. The northwestern crows are smaller. this allows many to think that the standard crows are ravens. Ravens don&#039;t &quot;caw&quot;, neither do Northwestern crows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of your readers have confused crows and ravens in their identifying of them. In Oregon ravens are extremely rare. Seeing two together probably did not happen. The northwestern US has both northwestern crows and standard american crows. The northwestern crows are smaller. this allows many to think that the standard crows are ravens. Ravens don&#8217;t &#8220;caw&#8221;, neither do Northwestern crows.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My birthday is Sept 26th - Libra &amp; Raven. Last night I had a dream where two ravens came to perch on my arms. They were very friendly and they were cautious not to hurt me as they landed. The dream then turned to revealing a &#039;sacred geometry&#039; pattern that I just found out is called &#039;the flower of life&#039; that lined up the planets in our solar system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My birthday is Sept 26th &#8211; Libra &amp; Raven. Last night I had a dream where two ravens came to perch on my arms. They were very friendly and they were cautious not to hurt me as they landed. The dream then turned to revealing a &#8217;sacred geometry&#8217; pattern that I just found out is called &#8216;the flower of life&#8217; that lined up the planets in our solar system.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been struggling with my feminine and masculine sides both physical and mentally since i was a young child. A few days ago i had this amazing, incredible dream about ravens for the first time i can remember.

it was sundown as i stood on my 3rth floor apartment balcony. The sun is not visiable from my balcony in reality but in my dream is was there in and i could see it go slowely beneath the earth. looking down a group of 10-12 women dressed in black long dresses/cloaks some wearing hoods other not. they formed different dance routins but looked alittle not well put together. as i watched them the eldest(maybe leader) of the pack noticed they had an audience. within seconds this eldest (she sorta resembled Ursilla, from The Little Murmaid) formed into a half/women half/raven and flew up to my balcony and with smiles and sweat asked me to join there team as they could use another to complete their pack. before i could answer and younger girl, maybe in her early twenties shape shifted to half/w half/raven and was flapping her winds in exhaustion joined the invitation and told me &quot;it would be fun, all you need to do i sign your name to him&quot; i took a step back in confusion and looked at the eldest composite raveness and said to her &quot;did she just say sign you name to...&quot; before i could finish my sentence, the group of girls down below formed turned half and half and flew is a big circle maybe about three times and they flew away into the sun along with the eldest and youngster.

This dream is wild and has i am during my research on what this dream/ravens means to me.

id thought i share this with like minded as it has been enjoyable to read everyone else&#039;s comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been struggling with my feminine and masculine sides both physical and mentally since i was a young child. A few days ago i had this amazing, incredible dream about ravens for the first time i can remember.</p>
<p>it was sundown as i stood on my 3rth floor apartment balcony. The sun is not visiable from my balcony in reality but in my dream is was there in and i could see it go slowely beneath the earth. looking down a group of 10-12 women dressed in black long dresses/cloaks some wearing hoods other not. they formed different dance routins but looked alittle not well put together. as i watched them the eldest(maybe leader) of the pack noticed they had an audience. within seconds this eldest (she sorta resembled Ursilla, from The Little Murmaid) formed into a half/women half/raven and flew up to my balcony and with smiles and sweat asked me to join there team as they could use another to complete their pack. before i could answer and younger girl, maybe in her early twenties shape shifted to half/w half/raven and was flapping her winds in exhaustion joined the invitation and told me &#8220;it would be fun, all you need to do i sign your name to him&#8221; i took a step back in confusion and looked at the eldest composite raveness and said to her &#8220;did she just say sign you name to&#8230;&#8221; before i could finish my sentence, the group of girls down below formed turned half and half and flew is a big circle maybe about three times and they flew away into the sun along with the eldest and youngster.</p>
<p>This dream is wild and has i am during my research on what this dream/ravens means to me.</p>
<p>id thought i share this with like minded as it has been enjoyable to read everyone else&#8217;s comments.</p>
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		<title>By: conundrum0</title>
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		<dc:creator>conundrum0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had many close encounters with my brother Ravens beginning with a trip to Painted Dessert and Petrified Forrest National Park many years ago. Typically when I am there a raven or two will pick me out and sit and chat with me for as long as I stay.  My family is often freaked out, even panicked by it a bit. One flew parallel with our car looking at me through the window for over a mile.  He was saying please don&#039;t leave us.  We want to be with you. I have had a pair of them who live in my neighborhood here in Colorado adopt me.  They often roost close by and chat with me.  They tease me about my chihuahuas saying they look like chipmunks or squirrels that might bite.  They are very intelligent and strongly spiritual, so much so it electrifies the air and I feel a strong connection to them in my heart and  soul. For all their faults and foibles they are a precious gift from God. Thank you God for the beauty you create of every moment in our deepest pain and sorrow and our greatest joys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had many close encounters with my brother Ravens beginning with a trip to Painted Dessert and Petrified Forrest National Park many years ago. Typically when I am there a raven or two will pick me out and sit and chat with me for as long as I stay.  My family is often freaked out, even panicked by it a bit. One flew parallel with our car looking at me through the window for over a mile.  He was saying please don&#8217;t leave us.  We want to be with you. I have had a pair of them who live in my neighborhood here in Colorado adopt me.  They often roost close by and chat with me.  They tease me about my chihuahuas saying they look like chipmunks or squirrels that might bite.  They are very intelligent and strongly spiritual, so much so it electrifies the air and I feel a strong connection to them in my heart and  soul. For all their faults and foibles they are a precious gift from God. Thank you God for the beauty you create of every moment in our deepest pain and sorrow and our greatest joys.</p>
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		<title>By: enelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>enelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also seem  to be followed by crows and ravens.not just  physically. i mean, they appear in dreams, books, movies everywhere. i live in nyc, and there arent really many here, but i often look up everyday on my way to school (no matter what time it is, im late a lot so i get to school from 9-10:40 am everyday) and i always see one circling over the bus stop.
i was also hospitalised a year ago for major depression and went to a  residential facility upstate, where there is a dense population. when i would sit outside they would come and just sort of stand by me. shortly before leaving,during a rainstorm, one sat on my windowsill for a few hours, even after i rapped on the window! I came back from lunch and it was gone, but it left a long perfect feather. Ive kept the feather, bc roommate told me it was a &quot;gift&quot; from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also seem  to be followed by crows and ravens.not just  physically. i mean, they appear in dreams, books, movies everywhere. i live in nyc, and there arent really many here, but i often look up everyday on my way to school (no matter what time it is, im late a lot so i get to school from 9-10:40 am everyday) and i always see one circling over the bus stop.<br />
i was also hospitalised a year ago for major depression and went to a  residential facility upstate, where there is a dense population. when i would sit outside they would come and just sort of stand by me. shortly before leaving,during a rainstorm, one sat on my windowsill for a few hours, even after i rapped on the window! I came back from lunch and it was gone, but it left a long perfect feather. Ive kept the feather, bc roommate told me it was a &#8220;gift&#8221; from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gidgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gidgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday I was standing in the garage of the new home I am moving into...an injured crow flew into the garage &amp; hopped around for awhile, then flew across the street...any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I was standing in the garage of the new home I am moving into&#8230;an injured crow flew into the garage &amp; hopped around for awhile, then flew across the street&#8230;any thoughts?</p>
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